Doug: You were The Naked Bartender at the Probe Awards. How was that experience for you?

Cole: Ahhhhh, The Probe Awards. I was the Naked Bartender at the Probe Awards. What that is, is you are asked by the people who run the awards, or one of the affiliates, to be The Naked Bartender and that is for the party for the industry before (the awards). I didn't realize this - it is a big honor to be The Naked Bartender. I said I would do it because I love the business - but I didn't realize how important it was and that you kind of go down in history as "The Naked Bartender in 1997, The Naked Bartender in 1998" and so on. It was packed with people from the industry and I had a great time. I've been a bartender so I was able to actually serve mixed drinks, and people liked that. I had some unique ways of mixing the drinks if you catch my drift. Actually I had a unique way of pouring the liquor into the glass but um...you'd have to be at the party to see. There was something hard, there was something with the tip, in the glass, and something was poured on the base, and that was how the mix and the alcohol got in the drink and then it got a stir. They came back for seconds! I dunno why!

The Probe Awards themselves - I gotta tell ya - they liked me! They really liked me! It's kinda how you really feel. It's a people's choice awards and I was nominated in two categories - Best Leather Stud and Best Top. It's kinda hard to get a perspective on where you are in the public's eye. Everyone doesn't just call you up! To win the award for Best Top was overwhelming and to beat three Falcon tops out of that award, which I don't think has ever been done - it's pretty overwhelming. If my career ended today that little trophy that I have is more than most people get, and I feel that I've contributed to the porn industry in many ways. One, I've broken an age barrier and that's very important to me. That's one of the reasons I do this. I felt that the porn industry has kind of separated or excluded men over 40 as sexual beings. I believe that we are sexual beings. I went into porn and in a very short period of time realized that I could create sexuality in men over 40 as being sexual beings and the industry took to that very well and the public has also ie: DADDY Cole Tucker.

Doug: What's the story behind your tattoos?

Cole: This is referred to "in the biz" as INK. At around 40 Years old I took a good assessment of my life and I felt the outside did not look or feel like the inside animal I was. I took a good look at it and said "What's goin' on here?". We got rid of the West Hollywood model hair, and we kinda got rid of the cashmere sweaters and we decided that for the rest of my life I wanted the sexual being on the inside to look like he was on the outside, I wanted to match.

Ever since I was 17 years old, if I were in a bar and there was a guy with some tattoos on him he made my dick hard. I finally realized that I too was a tattooed man. A friend of mine and I investigated what tattooing was about and he said "You can only go to one man, and his name is Stevie Moon and he's in Boston." And I met Stevie and boy, when you fantasize about being tattooed, you think about that tattoo then you fantasize that the man's gonna be gorgeous, and what could be better in your fantasy than having sex after your first tattoo? Well - I got tattooed and the man was gorgeous...and after the first tattoo he bent me over his tattoo table and fucked me. And that made a real connection with my first ink and sex. So this is about sex, this is sexual to me. It's sexual art. It turns me on. And it ain't goin' away.

This is a light Japanese style tattoo, this is a Koi (Showing Koi tattoo), and this is a Japanese Eagle at rest (showing eagle tattoo) Very fine. And this is a duplication of a 19th century block print and it is exact. This was the first one. Then we went to the Koi across the pec, and then we thought we might like some nice aroma, so we put a lotus on my bicep, (showing Lotus tattoo) so if you wanna smell a flower, baby, go right there.

Now we're working on a Scarab which is about half done right now and in about three weeks we're gonna finish it off. It's all gonna be tied together with water, then we're gonna think about it for a while. This artist is very good, he's one of the most talented artists in the country, and his focus is not only the fine workmanship, but he fits every piece to the muscle structure, and he spends as much time fitting these pieces as he does inking them. This took four hours to place (showing Koi tattoo) This took an hour to place (showing Lotus tattoo) - just to place it! And this took about an hour and a half to place (indicating Eagle tattoo). Well worth the time spent. It's forever, and the tattoo moves with my body gracefully now. This is permanent, and I wanted to get it right the first time.

Doug: Do you have any plans to get any more done, besides the scarab in progress now?

Cole: I don't know - it's an addiction...I can't control an addiction! This is the end (the scarab) you see, this was the last piece (Eagle) and then came this (The Koi) and then...THIS was the end (The Lotus) but I'm sure now, I'm positive, this is the last piece (indicating the Scarab tattoo)

Doug: How about piercing, do you think you'd go and get anything pierced?

Cole: I was pierced in 1973, and I didn't take to it, it didn't stay, it kinda fell out, it was wierd, it did a wierd thing to me. I enjoy piercing on men I'm with. If I were to get pierced, I would probably get a couple of guiches, which I find a major turnon when I see a man with a guiche. I'm OK with looking at PA's, but I gotta tell ya, I like to deep, deep throat cock and to me, a huge PA is beautiful to look at but if I'm gonna suck your dick, take it off. That's my opinion, other people really enjoy it. I think that it's beautiful jewelery, and it looks great on a dick, but for me it gets in the way sometimes.

Doug: Were you always a gay man?

Cole: I was a gay INFANT. My first erection was over cowboys and indians in the 50's. When they filmed cowboys and indians in the 50's, the cowboys were cowboys with white and black and hats... but indians were musclemen - California musclemen running around in G-String flaps and I remember at 4 and a half years old sitting, being babysat by the television, and all I wanted to do was lift those flaps, front and back and smell and lick my heart away. My first little hardon came from visualizing having sex with an indian. And it never stopped. I did go back in, at my parent's request, during my senior year in high school because they said "Please, please, just try it!". So I did and I almost found myself walking down the aisle. That scared the shit outta me, so I bolted back over on the right side of the fence for me and I've never looked back.

Doug: Can you recall your first man to man encounter, and was it a positive experience?

Cole: You know, I can't. It just went from boys, to teenagers, to men. And there is no defining point. I guess that as I got older and hairier and smellier, my partners did too, and that was just great!

Doug: Have you always been an exhibitionist?

Cole: I think I've always been an exhibitionist now that I can look back at it and see how I developed. I don't have any shame about that, it's just a state of being. I was a pretty pretty 5 year old boy and I was a pretty 8 year old boy, and I was a pretty 14 year old boy and I was starting to be a handsome boy-man at 17. When I was gay and out, and by out I mean my first time in a gay bar, my first time away from my household, and able to live a gay lifestyle, I discovered that I had something that other men wanted and I was very fortunate in my life on a physical level, genetically, I'd been desirable, or as one would say, had universal appeal, I'm told this, at all ages. At 17, at 19, at 22, at 25, at 30, at 35 at 40, at 45. I've changed through all that, I've naturally grown, but there was always a lot of appeal for me, and I don't know why that was, but in other words, I got more ass than a toilet seat in my whole life, OK?

Doug: Have you always been raunchy, a raunch pig?

Cole: Speaking of more ass than a toilet seat...I do like man smells and man tastes and I like raunch, and I like all kinds of sex, but raunch, it does turn me on. Smells turn me on, and visuals and men being real nasty piggy men turn me on. For a while I had a lot of guilt about this because good clean American boys don't get into that stuff. I tried to trace it back and I can tell you why I got into it, and why there's a connection between sex and smell. When I was 10 years old I used to fuck around with the neighbor boy named David "Blank". We used to screw around and we would, after school, go in his basement and we would drop our drawers and get our little dicks hard and we would suck each other's dicks and then believe it or not, smell each other's asses. Now that smell became, in a Pavlovian sense, a connection to sex for me. So anything that smells like a real man is connected to me sexually. I ain't gonna fight it, because it gets my dick hard, and I don't hurt anybody, and if it gets my dick hard and I ain't hurtin' anybody, it's OK with me and my spiritual being. So there you go, I've always been a raunch pig.

Doug: What about your workout routine? Have you always been very physically active?

Cole: This is me at 45. How I got here was I had a lover, my first lover, when I was 19 and he was into chicken and guess what? I was chicken! One day he said very short into our relationship "I'm gonna tell you something guy, you're a pretty boy and you want to have a happy gay life. There's a gym down the street, you get your ass in there and you start working out." This was in 1974. I did that, and I worked out. I had a decent body at that age, but it was no different, it was just structure, I had a good, athletic build. Within two years I had muscles. I mean MUSCLES. Now in 1977, NO ONE had muscles. I didn't have muscles like I have here, today the muscles the physique I had then would go unnoticed. But then, I was a freak. "Are you an Olympian? Why are you like that?". I'd go in a bar and I'd turn heads from a few little bumps. Then as time progressed, the culture caught up with exercise and I always kept ahead of it. Four years ago I hit a wall and I hired a trainer, and he taught me the science of exercise, which is the balance of nutrition, vitamins, rest and form, good clean form. He turned me from a nice body to a body that people want to put on film, and I'm kinda blown away, because I never ever dreamed I could be like this in my whole life. I didn't look big like this four years ago. I looked great, I looked fine, but I didn't look like this. I'd look at guys like this and go "How do they do it?", and then I finally hired someone to show me how to do it, and I gotta tell ya, it's not only great to look like this, but you don't imagine what it's like to climb a mountain - I mean, I can do anything. My body serves me. This is my Ferrari. I can jump, run, lift, move refrigerators, and still rest and be peaceful. It still works like a fine tuned machine so if you're thinking of investing in this little vessel you're carrying, I highly recommend it.

I work out 6 days a week. I work out in a 3-part workout. I do my chest and I do my shoulders one day and I do a cardio that day. I do legs on the middle day. And then I do my back and arms and cardio on the 3rd day and I rest on the 4th. The weighlifting should only take about an hour and 15 minutes. It always takes an hour and 45 for me because yak yak yak at the gym. And then there's half an hour of cardio. Nutrition is very important. What I did was instead of going from the ice cream, and the cookies and the steaks and all of the greasy stuff that I love, I didn't cut it off. Each month I'd take something away and replace it with something healthy, and all of a sudden I turned around and I found I had a healthy, healthy diet. I'm not a nazi - I will put butter on my bread, and I will have fettucine alfredo every once in a while and I'll have a dish of ice cream once a week. I don't see any need to have 3% body fat, it's unhealthy. I've got myself in single digits - this works for film - if I weren't filming I'd probably be 10 or 11% body fat which is probably healthier and more comfortable, and that's my routine.

Doug: Do you have anything you'd like to share with your fans, any words of wisdom, or advice, or anything you'd like them to know about you as a person.

Cole: Fans. That's a funny thing. It takes you about a year to realize you've actually got them! I'm humbled by the position I'm in. I truly am. I do not take it for granted. Today we were having breakfast and someone walked across and said "I just want to tell you how much pleasure you've given me, thank you," and that moved me. I think when it stops moving me I'll stop doing it, because this is a beautiful moment for me in my life. The thing I've learned, the lessons I've learned in this time is a: Nothing's impossible if you put your mind to it. I was told I couldn't do this, I was insane, I got a huge amount of resistance from people around me. Well guess what, nothing's impossible. The other thing is if you come from a place of truth inside yourself, your truth, you can accomplish so much, and people are drawn to you. I've come from a place of truth with this from the very beginning and it has paid off very well. You know, I'm honest, what you see is what you get, I'm an open book, Cole is the way I enjoy having sex and way I enjoy relating to men. To my fans, God bless you, thank you, you've really changed my life. Thank you.